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8/7/01 I dreamed about a vertical take off plane--more than once--twice I think. I
was watching an air battle of unusual looking planes over a big lake or
river in one dream. It was a dream that stuck in my memory as a picture,
some dreams I read in my notebook but don't remember the picture that goes
with them. I was up on a hill of bare black earth like they have in Iowa
and there was a big body of water down below, may have had waves breaking.
There were bright flashes of light from the planes fighting and chaotic
noise but a voice told me to look at this. Some of the planes moved very
fast from spot to spot in the sky. And there was a shriek of noise--like
missiles, but it was muted from where I watched. In another dream they
weren't fighting, just landing and taking off in the driveway ( I noticed a
vertical take-off plane that didn't look like a helicopter exactly--I didn't
pay attention to plane designs much, especially before the internet) where
the bull was when I was a kid. In a third dream, a plane that looked like a
fiberglass boat from the point of view standing looking up at it. It flew
over as I watched from the steps of a house I don't really have. It made an
unusual noise like it was moving very slowly, which it was, but it caused
fear -- vibrating -- I was afraid to look at it anymore -- it flew over
twice. I saw a plane that did look like a fiberglass boat on the cover of
Popular Mechanics in the Spring of 2001!
Posted 7/18/01
There have been four "hits" in my dreams of military crashes in the past two months -- they are having an unusual number of F16 crashes -- five of them in the past six months.
-- only one I had the number of the plane -- I was close on X43 -- I had L43.
But on the last one, I wonder if the guy's name was "Bob."
The two with the most detail -- seeing the plane -- there was a tall guy with crewcut in coveralls and a sardonic manner of speaking -- I wonder if it is the ghost of a test pilot or air traffic controller telling me these things.
The part at the bottom is all the rest of the references to phones in 2001 -- I used search to find them -- all the dreams are typed for 2001 now.
Dream Images
Airplane Dreams (7/17/01)
NEW POST 7/17/01 -- Trying to match up dates from dreams and the news -- very hard to find
past stories. Only the most recent three or four were researched right away. My "phone" dreams
only seem to refer to MILITARY problems (maybe because of my job) -- and though there are
crashes EVERY DAY, there are not military crashes every day. THIS YEAR SEEMS TO BE
MORE THAN USUAL. Phone calls are very hard to make in dreams -- I used to have a dream of trying
call a couple of times a year and they stay in your memory because you get a dead line, someone is
already talking when you pick it up, the buttons are missing or too small or are not labeled and you
have to try to remember where the numbers are, you have to keep starting over, don't have any coins.
After awhile you don't dream about phones anymore -- VERY tiring -- you can't find a phone book or
it is different, the operator doesn't answer.
There are five F-16 crashes in the past six months alone. Also some F18 that I recal - Northrop
makes them so they stick in my mind, and a X43.
On July 6, an Air Force pilot was killed off the coast of South Carolina
while on a training mission out of Shaw Air Force Base.
In June, a pilot was killed in southern South Korea (news - web sites)
while on a training mission out of Kunsan.
In April, a pilot based at
Misawa Air Base ejected safely before his plane crashed into the sea
off the coast of Japan.
In March, the pilot of an F-16 fighter out of Cannon Air Force Base in
New Mexico ejected safely before the jet crashed near a bombing
range. The pilot, who was treated for minor injuries, told investigators
the jet's single engine failed during the routine training flight.]
F-16 Jet Crashes in California, Killing 2 Crew (Reuters)
- Jul 17 2:53 PM ET
An F-16 fighter jet plummeted 20,000 feet Thursday night, missing a US Airways passenger
plane en route from San Francisco
to Charlotte by 2.7 miles.
- Jul 14 8:03 AM ET
Wednesday July 18 7:51 AM ET U.S. F-16 Plane Crashes in Eastern Turkey (80 miles from No-Fly Zone.)
6/2/01 Justice [Sword and scales] test pilot looking guy -- blond, crewcut coveralls talking on the phone, "transfer
L43 to London" It looks like a wireless phone, [must be in the
future, the AT&T preview Erickson ones were just unveiled today - wireless has been delayed to
late summer or fall]. I ask him if he's using my phone bill and he says yes. Girl says, "give her
a quarter." I count the coins he gives me -- JFK on it, must be $1 coin. There are 12 and they
are two inches, square and have pictures painted on them -- one looks like a white cloud,
explosion, maybe like Challenger. [X43 blown up in aborted test -- towed into space.]
6/3/01 6 of cups. Midnight "synodic" (successive meetings or conjunctions of celestial bodies)
synod (religious policy meeting), snood (worn on hair). Too expensive -- space ship At the other end
he's sitting at the computers and when I walk up says that the
security guards were watching over his shoulder and he was just sending a message to his
mother. They ask what language, Indonesian? Swahili (South African)? They are writing it down
on big flip charts. operation back at the free computer section, where he gets a smaller brain.
They are inserting
it in his skull. I anxiously wait to see if his personality will change much. The doctors asssure
me it won't kill him and demonstrate the metal Egyptian looking shunt they use through the
base of the brain or nose.
6/8/01 6 of swords - science. 7 AM I spend all day working on some defrosted dinners, frozen a
long time, perhaps. The quality assurance (QA) one is okay, it is a traditional buritto, but the
other one is a newer wrap, major revision, and may have a damaged filling -- wrapped too loose.
Queta tells me that my (engineer) boss has been out taking a rollerskating break three times
already today (it is afternoon). I hear Queta (she's in a cubicle and I have a private office and I
can hear her talking on the phone from my office) telling someone that she heard the skinny
one tell the fat one to do something the wrong way,
> 6/11/01 3 AM phone call to man to watch something from the
> other side [may mean military plane crash at La Guardia or other east
> coast]. Barbie. Even with a heart of gold. 15. Another 40 minutes
> inside. Home. Video. As soon as they get there -- movie. The ocean is a
> tomb, that's why (picture of swelling waves, surfers). [Chinese pilot crashed intercepting
the American spy plane.]
6/15/01 Queen of Swords, Queen of Cups reversed, Sun
He's arguing with someone on the phone -- his family it sounds
like. The office when I go back out looks about the size of the huge room I work in at Northrop,
but everyone is gone but one desk -- where I see a woman with a row of shoes lined up under a
spotlight, and hear her talking about scuffs. ... Woman pushing buttons
to see if the power/phone lines that were cut are reconnected yet. Back in my bedroom, in
closet. It is stuffy and I am opening windows and there is one I never noticed in the closet. I
examine it and it has double panes of glass, one is small pieces of glass leaded like a church
window but all clear glass. there is also a sliding lock and a little windshield wiper so you can
see out to see if it's raining. The window is very old and fragile so I don't open it. A man comes
in behind me and I show him the leaded glass and it now has a stained glass picture on it -- a
woman with a huge flag that drapes over her left shoulder.
> 6/18/01 Queen of wands, Sun, Knight of swords
> 1030 PM what are they doing out there (police)? Stacks of big cookies to
> mail to soldiers - woman says phone lines may be slow going through -
> word, won't try to run away.... Someone calls from a phone booth at the airport and tells me
> something. Picture of Moody and wife both being carried into or out of
> their house on stretchers
7/4/01 Judgment. 830 AM History children are reading now will one day become adult
(China).... Guy not breathing through nose or out of breath, "can I lay down the bag now?" --
gym bag or duffle bag, dark green or gray with cloth handles.... "Shove those guys a shovel,
now that you know the secret . Picture of San
Francisco peninsula with swirls all around it -- problems on all sides, it is an island of calm....
Another shadowy man in trousers walks behind men sitting at a table (cards?).... Man on
phone, loud voice, "Good-bye. Sheila!" ...
7/6/01 2 of wands,dominion Two planes, she's holding them up; voice "that's your topic."
... "Result of experiments of people to put more depth in their life." ... One man speaks and a
voice says, "flakey" -- rueful voice. ... Picture of a big pile of gray powder; several people
working on it. One has a degree in explosives, says, "that's the trouble." ... Voice says to me,
"stay invisible" -- I'm watching the scene with the gray powder, standing at one side. They lead
a woman to a platform or scaffold -- wearing Puritan long gray wool dresses. A small boy sitting
on the ground watching what they do to the woman.
"Friday July 6 1:59 PM ET Pilot Killed in Air Force Jet Crash CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) - An
Air Force fighter jet crashed in the Atlantic on Friday, killing the pilot. The plane, an F-16CJ
crashed about 10:40 a.m. about 40 miles east of Charleston]
7/9/01 6 of pentacles(R) success; 5 of pentacles, worry; Queen of wands(R)
I'm on a crowded, messy
place along a seashore with a bunch of mothers and small kids. I have a
very unusual paper airplane made of stiff cardboardI end up going on a journey
with them, to find the paper plane -- we pass a drainage pipe and a giant
black snake with a wide mouth and individual shiny black scales slithers
over the little girl and then overpowers me also as I try to push it away
7/13/01 King of wands (R Conversation -- Art Bell's voice, "you've heard me say ever since I was
11 I wanted to talk to a
UFO." Caller's voice, "yeah, I heered you." -- sounded sort of like Dannion Brinkley, mocking --
doesn't say anything more. ...
7/14/01 4 of swords (R) speak out, shake things up. Then "My/our job is done"
"Houston 250,000 takes over the bar." "FBI investigates Mr. Quarter" -- 9-2001.
9 AM I'm in Seattle. Man's name is Gordon or Erickson. His wife says he thanks me for feeding
him -- he can't feed himself. He looks familiar when I get a good look at him sitting next to him
-- looks like Carl Jung, wool coat with collar. and the man beside me flees the table. I follow him
to bring him back --he's making a phone call in the hall.A woman comes in to
ask about a man's boxer shorts found weighed down with rocks in the sound. A rock building
we pass with a small window has a note on it -- white letters on black with a phone number,
letters cut out of a magazine like a ransom note. If he's Erickson, I think maybe he hypnotized
the fish. Tony comes
in and says my boss is mad at me because I called headquarters and told them he was dead.
> 7/16/01 Knight of wands (development of the emotions. Or don't face your
> problems before you get to them -- Waite) "Oh, Bob, how do you begin to
> converse." A sophisticated middle aged woman in a long white cotton
> dress, drinking a cup of coffee, offers me a sip from her cup. I notice
> out the big window behind her an X-43 is taking off and landing --
> swooping in circles. They have their backs to it and don't see it. We
> walk over to the window to see if it is going to fly again and a band is
> playing -- there is a cafe table in front of the window with a tanned,
> middle aged blond, crew cut guy who is talking on an old fashioned phone
> that comes with each table. Bob is with me and I say I have to call that
> I'm late. I get out a dime and the blond man puts out his hand for me to
> give it to him. So I get out another dime. The blond guy remarks that
> this phone is very busy and he's making another call also. There is only
> one line, various extensions. I go to another table but there's a shadowy
> man making a call there too as soon as the blond one hangs up.
[F16 crashed at China Lake 7/17/01 --killing two. They were taking photos
of another F16 on a training mission.]
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All other dreams with phones in 2001.
3/20/01 I go on a tour of a soybean factory. Some kids show me their room with a computer for
each one. I have a plan to take something and write different or destroy. All four phone lines are
busy at work. I pick up the first line and a woman asks me what number I want to call. I pick up
the second line and a man is calling a woman after work. President Walt Andrus. Signs of
depression - enduring repression. Depression placebos for the holidays, like birth control pills
in a circular holder.
[Phone calls always seem to mean plane crashes, often military ones. On 3/26/01, two F-15s
disappeared over Scotland and two died in an Army helicopter crash the same day.]
> 5/1/01 The babies are full I noticed. Answer to an email. Magazines
> about Austrian Christmas given to soldiers. I call someone -- can't
> remember the phone number. Queta selling glass ware on the ground at a
> swap meet or yard sale. Looks like an antique store -- consignment booth.
> Blue glass jar. Set of dishes with red and brown designs.
> 1/18/01 Falling, I hear phones ringing. Uri Geller, Bob Feller.
> A bunch of TV stations, videos. Basement where two new young women start
> working where I do, square dancing. Pacific shoreline -- phone modem
> dials. Girl tells me to use the number 1 or 101 line. I'm supposed to
> call Mary Jane and ask the date a teacher -- Shirley Monteilh started at
> daycare/VA, to retire. She asked to retire. I'm next in age/line.
> What's this (Barry's voice.)
> 5/22/01 9 of pentacles reversed. ..... Girl comes up and
> says she has some gifts that Michael kissed and she doesn't want to keep
> them, her mother comes in -- dark curly hair like girl and some other
> relatives are in the other room watching a movie and eating that leftover
> green soup -- they say it looks terrible but tastes good. I get dressed
> and my clothes are the ones I wore in high school and college. I'm
> thinner. The girl reminds me of the gifts on the counter and they are a
> black leather jacket with sergeant stripes on the sleeves -- three
> stripes, master sergeant maybe. And in a black plastic bag is an apple
> pie with graham cracker crumb crust. There was also a rectangular box,
> See's maybe. Her phone rings and she says goodbye and time to go (alarm
> rings). [Tad Szulc died today -- Pope John Paul II's biographer and also
> wrote a novel, To Kill the Pope in 2000.]
> 1/31/01 Then I hide underneath the porch in garbage in
> the crawlspace with a woman and her teenaged son. He asks a
> question -- it's a Tarot lesson. I see a big butcher knife and a butter
> knife and hide them under the couch while trying to do the lesson -- my
> card is the seven of swords. I hear the others' cards shuffling and they
> answer how their card applies to the question. He asks me about a battery
> -- if it lasts. I say it's a big battery. The next card I get is the
> hanged man, but is a woman sitting in a coffin leaning forward in
> supplication. I had that card back in the deck, then start looking for it
> again -- that didn't look like a Rider-Waite card exactly (more like
> Judgement). The man dials 911 after I think about trying to grab the
> phone. He takes out a picture and keeps looking from it to me, and I pull
> my blouse neckline different and concentrate on not making my usual
> gestures, sit on my hands. Then I'm naked from the waist up again
> somehow. I thank the girl and her son profusely and hug them, then I run
> out -- he can read my mind (911) -- and run towards the ocean and slide
> down a steep dirt path. I look back and he's sliding right behind me.
> Other men jogging by don't stop. I twist his toe and he spins away out of
> control and puts a girl in a 55 gallon drum.
>
> 2/3/01 Getting dressed up for a graduation --guy tells people he
> is and where he'll be in business. I have a short black wrap dress.
> Phone is transferred from work, guy calls about some award or medal he has
> for Rick Coutu -- he's working late. His hands are very soft on palms.
> Small empty white box in garbage. A lot of dishes to wash, I have to be
> in class at 9,
> 2/10/01 A series of scenes. $100 collection of cigarette money
> for post office worker -- Ken once upon a time. An empty room with a wood
> floor -- ballet, a grassy field. I was told I needed insurance -- tall
> slender redhead in glasses Plane in swamp. A pop goes off, I listen. Free lunch pass
> with interview, bowl of soapy water -- throw on carpet in front of a room
> -- office. I only want one wish. Go thru step by step, all the military
> guests. He's just a copy machine, he doesn't have a body. I don't care
> -- respect for me. Picture of town on one side, close-up on the other.
> $100 to keep Bush in place. Deeper than a scar like Chinese history (or
> Egyptian). On the phone usually can tell when people are lying. 50
> pounds in 30 minutes. Go to another level and save there. Man supervisor
> says workers doing important things. I was worrying about air
> conditioner. Something there in hall -- a bubble. Now it's gone,
> envelopes you. Negative/vegetative energy. Water shortate, take some
> from each of two tanks. April 16th, plane crash. You've been sweeping
> the cave and holding the door open. 100 girl giggling. IMP OR TAN T,
> IMPORT ANT. another group of people in there. Several rooms, one with
> meeting, sergeant -- doesn't know what about. [Military plane crash, 16
> people died. Sergeant to decide if dog should be put to death -- Hera]
5/25/01 A woman downloading some religious files, she says .tmp files. I take the phone. It's
Marina's voice, she says, "this is the worst line." I ask, "connection or number of calls" and
she says "both". She says her spirits are telling her a dark cloud with a hole in it -- depression.
Under that is another box with a motel bed and a letter to be mailed. A girl
appears --working by the door with country music playing -- slender, dark hair. And my old
boss, working at a desk by the motel bed thing -- but he looks like a compilation of a lot of old
bosses -- wearing white shirt. He asks if I've ever seen a letter of supoena or some legal letter. I
> Times on these. I emailed this at 1:24 PM (had the dream between 5 and 10
> AM) by the time I got it typed. The plane was towed to 24,000 feet at
> 12:30 PM PDT (3 hours earlier than EDT) -- phone calls in my dream always
> mean plane crashes -- always military ones, I think. I've been having
> them since 1987 when we were in the N Building the first time. But I have
> only a few hours warning -- by the time I posted it even if I knew where
> to send predictions if they still have some website somewhere -- it was
> already almost too late. Unless they saw it and told the pilot, "abort,
> abort."
> I could get up and type my dreams at 5 AM as soon as I had them, but they
> said they had 3 planes anyway and had to crash one trying it. I wonder if
> it had a pilot -- it didn't say.
> I was wondering when I heard the "43" in the dream what it was -- flight
> number or something. I don't know the names of many planes, besides F18,
> F5, etc. I don't seem to dream about commercial flights except the ones
> shot down by fighter planes. The last one I dreamed "16th" and there
> were 16 soldiers killed -- two planes bumped or something. I forget, it
> was a couple months ago.
> ----- Original Message -----Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 1:24 PM
> A lot of relatives have showed up. I hear one skinny blond girl's
> companion talking on the phone, "transfer L43 to London" It looks like a
> wireless phone, [must be in the future, the AT&T preview Erickson ones
> were just unveiled today - wireless has been delayed to late summer or
> fall]. I ask him if he's using my phone bill and he says yes. Girl says,
> "give her a quarter." I count the coins he gives me -- JFK on it, must be
> $1 coin. There are 12 and they are two inches, square and have pictures
> painted on them -- one looks like a white cloud, explosion, maybe like
> Challenger.
> Saturday June 2 8:11 PM ET
>
> Revolutionary NASA Jet Destroyed in
> Flight
>
> By Dan Whitcomb
>
> EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif.
> (Reuters) - The first prototype of an aircraft
> intended to revolutionize travel and shatter
> speed records was destroyed during its
> maiden flight on Saturday after a booster
> rocket carrying it aloft veered out of control
> and tumbled from the sky.
>
> U.S. space scientists were forced to destroy the unmanned X-43A
> prototype in mid-air just minutes before the plane was due to fire the
> oxygen-scooping ``scramjet'' engine designed to drive it at seven times
> the speed of sound.
>
> NASA (news - web sites) cameras aboard two F-18 chase planes
> showed the Pegasus rocket careening off course and falling out of
> control from the sky before controllers triggered on-board explosives to
> destroy it over the Pacific Ocean at about 4:45 p.m. EDT.
>
> Pieces of the booster rocket and the small, black X-43A prototype,
> part of NASA's ``Hyper-X'' program, fell into the sea.
>
> Dejected NASA scientists said they would form a ``mishap investigation
> team'' to determine what went wrong but vowed that the $185 million
> program that they have billed as the future of aviation would go on.
>
> ``We're obviously disappointed at this but we're going to go find out
> what happened, fix it and fly again,'' Hyper-X program manager Vince
> Rausch said. ``We didn't think this was a slam dunk. There was some
> risk that this would happen and that risk wasn't zero.''
>
> Rausch said he could not speculate on how long it would take to
> investigate the failure or when the next test flight would be scheduled.
>
> The X43-A was making the first of three scheduled test flights in the
> Hyper-X program, which NASA has said will ultimately making space
> travel routine and pave the way for cross-country commercial flights in
> 30 minutes.
>
> The scientists -- who have called the program an aviation breakthrough
> as historic as the Wright Brothers' first flight -- said they had no
> immediate information on what caused the failure, though they said it
> appeared to be the booster rocket, and not the X43-A itself or its
> hypersonic engine, that was at fault.
>
> ``There's a reason we have three of these (prototypes),'' NASA
> spokesman Fred Johnson said. ``It's an experimental flight test. If we
> knew the outcome we wouldn't be learning anything.''
>
> The X43-A and its Pegasus booster were carried to 24,000 feet by a
> B-52 bomber that left Edwards Air Force Base in the California desert
> at about 3:30 p.m. EDT and the mission appeared to be going smoothly
> as the small black plane and its booster detached.
>
> The booster rocket was intended to accelerate the X43-A to Mach 7
> speeds at about 100,000 feet before the prototype detached and
> operated for a few seconds at that speed, setting a speed record.
>
> The booster veered out of control before that could happen.
>
> Scientists said the hypersonic engine -- which took engineers some 40
> years to create -- would revolutionize space travel by obtaining its
> oxygen fuel from the air. The engine combines the oxygen with hydrogen
> to power the aircraft.
>
> This would avoid the need for it to carry its own oxygen supply, a
> weight savings that would allow it to fly greater distances or carry
> heavier payloads.
>
> Currently the fastest ``air-breathing'' jet is the SR-71 Blackbird, which
> flies at Mach 3, or three times the speed of sound. The scramjet would
> ultimately be designed to reach Mach 10 speeds.
>
> Scientists said the ``scramjet'' engine could also be employed in
> military
> applications, powering a jet too fast for an adversary to shoot down.
Dee, See my conclusions at the bottom. Here is my dream with correlations from the news clips you have posted on your website. Hope this sheds some light on the situation along with all the other dreamers. If nothing else, we are helping the dead tell their stories--sort of like that Edwards guy does on TV....
10/30/99 At work, I walk up a grassy hill for exercise. Hill from Grandma's house. A girl half-way up has a room with a combination lock. She says she had the guy from the TV station check her TV personally, so hers works good. It doesn't open, so I have to go back down to reset her password. Back at the bottom, there's a ravine where the creek was along the road. Very dry here, though, must irrigate. A fence to the left where a couple from the city are picnicing. They have a radio, but the guy says it's a scanner. There's a bull out of sight over the hill top--very short hair like baby hairless rabbits. Huge bull--also like mini-beanie baby elephant, but tan instead of gray. Like big dog--pitbull. The man and woman's picnic is over. they were in with the bull. Then the man says he'll make the bull come by pressing the button on the scanner.( I dreamed that JFK Jr.'s Plane was "hit by a big black bull that dragged it" too....Sean David Morton says JFK JR's plane was shot down with a missile) The girl that needed the password reset is there too--looks like Terri Rinard, the girl next door. I tell her she'd better shut the door so the bull won't see her and charge. The door is flimsy--big gap and dead bolt lock barely reaches the hole. I have a gun but don't want to fire it. the bull runs up to the door in a swirl of dust. I look for more places to run--out the back door. Or hide--ladies room. I open the door and it's a closet with meat and corn already cooked. The corn sparkles--very white kernals (on the cob). The meat is big slabs of turkey. ( I think this refers to the country Turkey where some people think the Anti-Christ will come from.) It is under the hide again, looks like buffalo, cooked then covered with the hide. **See you Monday**, goodbye son, stay out of the hall. A man floating in the creek--looks Japanese--face out of the water. Dust on books, sit down, it's not important
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Dee's Dream of the same day(s) of 30-31st In addition to the dream I had, I had another dream the next day in which a young girl said, **"I'll be back on Monday!".** I was surprised to see her at the door the next morning along with her mother who said, "She always says Monday when she means tomorrow!" I also dreamed a long list of names the same night.
phase converter was supposed to have been on that plane... however it reached Egypt
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An investigator who spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity said one intriguing lead turned up the day after
the crash when a hotel housekeeper reported that drug paraphernalia - a hypodermic needle - had been found hidden in the room
of a crew member of Flight 990.
It was the same Los Angeles hotel room in which a crew member complained to management that a combination lock on his
attache case had been tampered with, the investigator said. The dog reacted to sugar in a hotel room, The New York Times reported today, citing a law enforcement source. The sugar and loose wires found in the room are being analyzed, but investigators reportedly don't believe there was ever a bomb or bomb material in the room. Doubletree Guest Suites,
EgyptAir chairman Mohamed Fahin Rayyan, said the coincidence was "strange," noting that the site of Sunday's accident was
near the TWA accident and John F. Kennedy, Jr. tragedies.
"At one point, a crew member of one of the planes radioed air traffic control to ask why the change. Air traffic control responded that 'there are rockets being fired in the area.'" Per Passenger listening to an FAA scanner.
But according to Associated Press speaking to sources in Egypt, that particular EgyptAir aircraft began its flight in Los Angeles and apparently made a landing at Edwards Air Force Base in California. That seems very odd to me.
In a Sept. 24 "information circular" obtained by The Associated Press, the Federal Aviation Administration said several U.S. agencies got letters in August warning "a bomb or explosive device with 'spiral expansion' would soon be used on a flight departing from either Los Angeles airport or New York's JFK airport." (Scanner?)
Family members said el-Batouty had just bought two tires in the United States for his son's car and they believed the tires were on Flight 990.
President Clinton, during his trip to Turkey, was briefed today by National Security Adviser Sandy Berger on what has been learned and on the course of the investigation.
"Sherif el-Batouty, cousin said suicide would have been inconceivably out of character for el-Batouty, a former air force pilot and flight instructor
who was looking forward to retirement in March to pursue his passion - gardening at a nursery that he started with a friend three
years ago.
Walid Murad and Sherif el-Batouty also pointed out that the co-pilot had no financial worries, even though he made less money
than an aircraft commander. He belonged to a wealthy landowning family from the Nile Delta town of Mansoura. "
There was a group of 54 people booked by a Boston travel agency for a two-week tour of the Nile and ancient Egyptian sites. The victims also included 106 Americans, many of them retirees embarking on group tours to the Nile River region of Egypt.
In December 1997, a SilkAir Boeing 737 was cruising at 35,000 feet in clear weather over Indonesia when it suddenly went into a
steep dive and crashed into a river, killing all 104 people aboard.
Though a definitive finding has yet to be released by Indonesian authorities, investigators believe that Tsu Way Ming, the jet's
captain, disconnected the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder to mask his actions and then forced the plane into a dive.
Tsu had recently been demoted and disciplined by the airline and had large gambling debts.
Dee, the part of the story about stopping at Edwards made my heart sink. I dreamed that I had to go to Palmdale (which is right next door to Edwards AFB because of my job, but I didn't know exactly what I was supposed to do.) I was traveling in the dark and saw a white thing that looked like a road that I crossed and then I was there. I was surprised to see my old boss Marc Weiner, who was fired from the Fed Govt for credit card he couldn't pay on his govt credit card and for testing positive for cocaine (fired back in 1994 about). He had some ice tea that he made with salt water the other employees told me. I couldn't find any work, so I started back to Hawthorne (near the beach in Los Angeles) and was surprised that I had to cross a river where I saw the whilte 'road or something" in the dark going there. I looked to right and left and to my right was the Nile delta it looked like and the left was Iowa or somewhere. The river was very narrow right there and I jumped across. there were some teenaged girls walking along a ledge on the outside of the building as I looked back at it as I left. They were new secretaries, I was surprised to think because you have to have a Top Secret clearance and they probably don't have many young women even working for Northrop. If you need the date on this dream, I can search for it at work and send you that date also. I read shortly after that coincidentally about someone else crossing a "white line" to get to the other world.
Maybe some plastic explosives was put in the briefcase that was tampered with. I dream about yellow stuff like clay a lot. I also have dreamed twice about a briefcase where the snaps worked on only one side of the case. I looked inside the case and it had a bar of transparent gylcerine soap in it and a section of artery and also a section of large intestine with some rubber gloves and rubber shoe covers like doctors use.
I was tracking a series of F18 crashes in 2001 (5-6 of them in about 3 months--Northrop makes F18's-- I also dreamed that Sandy Cortez and Raul Montes sneaked me in there and they were working on yellow clay type stuff on the F18 assembly line-- and then we went on to where the Heavens Gate were--Raul had one-arm in the dream and one of the pictures I saw over the weekend of bin Laden showed him with an empty sleeeve as if he had his arm amputated--I also almost had an arm cut off in a factory accident when I was 18). I was tracking them about July-- and correlating them to my dreaming of phone calls. On one of the last ones an Air Traffic Controller gave me the plane number--X43 (an experimental plane) and it did have to be blown up on a test where they tow it up with a B52 or something. On New Years day when the Alaska airlines plane crashed here in the ocean off LA I dreamed of the pilot doing stunt flying and the wing scraping, and it turned out to be blamed on a part that wasn't working right and they tried to fix it themselves. I wrote that dream down in my sleep and found it when I woke up and wrote "next dream is midnight"--and New Years dreams used to be my most important ones, told me what was going to happen during my year several years in a row.
Very interesting. Love, Sheila
----- Original Message -----
From: Dee777@aol.com
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Terrorism on Flight 990 in 1999?
In a message dated 10/14/2001 6:11:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Dee777 writes:
Hi all:
We are taking another look at Flight 990 from 1999.
There was great controversy.over whether the pilot Batouty committed
suicide or whether the plane crash was an accident.
Since September 11, 2001 when the Muslim terrorists crashed
into the World Trade Center, we need to look again at Flight 990
and find out if the pilot Batouty had some connection to any
terrorist organization.
Here are the facts: greatdreams.com/plane990.htm
FLIGHT 990 - EGYPTAIR - OCTOBER 31, 1999
and
greatdreams.com/PassEAir990.htm
Passengers and crew on EgyptAir Flight 990 - October 31, 1999
Dee
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